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Offline Lynjowoman

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2008, 12:18:02 AM »
I'm not sure that BM or SW will have it. Tommyboy is a member here & is a XIM rep. I hope he will chime in here & let you know where to find it. Most of the paint stores are limited to what they can carry & the  amount they can carry. I do know our ICI store has it so it might be better to check there if you have a local ICI store near by. Hope this helps you out. It is a great product IMO.

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2008, 05:32:05 PM »
Lynjo is so correct about flotrol clumping up and getting globby slimy yuckies and Jared gave a great explanation on Xim;  however I still use flotrol (but carefully and sparingly;  XIM is far better for the final smoothness IMHO.  I get my XIM at SW.  The dang ICI store carries the primer but doesn't keep the x-tender and gee - vise versa on the x-tender and primer from SW;   go figure ::)

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #17 on: March 10, 2008, 12:35:26 AM »
ive used flotrol but only when it was needed, havent heard of XIM. dont use water, you risk thinning it too much. really, i dont think you need an additive every job. it really depends what paint you use, like Duration Home. sure its a nice 7 mil claimed coating, but its hell to work with unless you 'flo it a lil. aside from that sometimes latex in the cold gets a lil like molasses. not to say i disagree with ya'll, i just find myself usually using the same products and most of them dont need anything added.

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #18 on: March 10, 2008, 08:42:40 AM »
Latex X-Tender is available at all SW stores, most ICI stores and other professional paint stores. Thanks for the recommendations from the painters here. Latex X-tender has become a lot more popular as the new low voc waterbased paints have been introduced. If anyone would like to try it, email me and I will send you a couple of 2 oz samples.

PS- We also make a little known additive called X-Tender which is pretty hard to find in the stores.  Most of the stores would have to order it in for you.  It is an open time and flow enhancing additive for SOLVENT based paints. Painters who have used it swear by it. Great for getting an extremely smooth finish with trim.
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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #19 on: March 10, 2008, 06:15:59 PM »
PS- We also make a little known additive called X-Tender which is pretty hard to find in the stores.  Most of the stores would have to order it in for you.  It is an open time and flow enhancing additive for SOLVENT based paints. Painters who have used it swear by it. Great for getting an extremely smooth finish with trim.

Our local ICI stocks it, by the insistence of the manager, good stuff and non-yellowing to boot...

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #20 on: March 10, 2008, 06:43:05 PM »
Tommy Boy, while we are on the subject matter of XIM products.  I use the waterbase Gon20 quite a bit and I love this product as well, but I have to have it ordered everytime also.

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #21 on: March 11, 2008, 06:52:08 PM »
Thanks Decorative Walls.  Gon2O is a great waterbased prep product and degreaser.  Unfortunately we can't get many stores (distributors) to stock it. Since most of our customers are owned by paint companies, it is tough to get shelf space. For some reason painters in Canada like it where we sell a disproportinate amount of it.
We also make a range of other products that aren't in wide distribution.  Part of my job is to keep trying to get the message out through marketing and advertising.  We also make a solvent based prep product called GON. It is extremely strong stuff and will liquefy residual adhesive and destroy grease. ( I wiped off 2 year old duck tape residue on my boat with no effort).
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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2008, 07:34:43 AM »
can u get it in the uk

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2008, 04:46:54 PM »
I second that motion Lyn & RTQ  ..  :)

The XIM is very thin ( like water ) and requires a smaller amount (to volume) than Floetrol. I have also noticed much more (dry) paint film shrinkage with Floetrol.  JMHO.. 


"Dry paint film shrinkage"... can you elaborate on this? Is it mainly with enamels?

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2008, 05:34:31 PM »

"Dry paint film shrinkage"... can you elaborate on this? Is it mainly with enamels?

mark

Something I see a lot of on homeowner DIY. Mostly involves oils, where paint is laid on too thick or the painting surface and the airtemp/humidity are diverse (hot air, cold surface) The surface mil skins over long before the mils underneath, creating a "lizard skin" appearance. 

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2008, 08:54:56 PM »
Eric makes a good point about misapplying alkyds, but I was referring to latex trim paint that has been "enhanced" with a large amount of Floetrol. The paint looks full on application ( when wet ) but when it dries it seems to shrink down to a thin and sometimes streaky appearance. JME ...  ;)
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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #26 on: April 03, 2008, 11:57:30 AM »
Well, I'm close to being done with the tax season (my winter job). Now it's back to painting. Haven't been here since last fall.
Anyway, I remember one job last year. Even though I was using a quality BM,
it was close to 100 degrees out. Floetrol was a life saver. It's important to use the prpoer amount, that make all the difference.
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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #27 on: April 03, 2008, 12:01:12 PM »
That would be "proper" amount.

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Re: Flotrol
« Reply #28 on: July 05, 2015, 11:29:21 PM »
For the persons that have tried flotrol, can you please describe your experience?
Thanks  ;)
All about flotrol: http://www.flotrole.com/